How did I get 50+ new patrons in less than two months on Patreon?
In the video above, I review Patreon and share my experience with getting patrons on Patreon to pay me more than $200 per video I make. I learned this first by looking at other popular users, failing several strategies of my own to get patrons, and finding one that consistently works. Here I explain how I get patrons on Patreon, how I learned what I needed to do by looking at other top creators, and explain how I use Patreon to enrich my own business model. I hope this helps you understand how the site works, and how you can use it to benefit your existing business model! By analysing what has made other pages successful, and looking at my own mishaps, I hope to enrich your experience while you make your start on the site.
Update: Please be advised that we don’t do pledge for pledge anymore.
A Look at the Top Patreon User’s Audience.
These numbers have only risen since I made this list!
Let me show you how large of a viewing audience you need to be really successful on Patreon. The number one page has been Pentatonix for a long time. Their youtube channel has a whopping 6.5 million subscribers! That is 2000 times the amount of the subscribers on my channel! Their videos have 600 million views. They are very popular on YouTube. That gigantic audience earns them $16,000 per video!
Tom Merritt gets $11,000 for creating his podcasts.
Tom Merritt, is number two on the list. He gets paid over $11,000 for each podcast he creates. He already had a podcast before he started on Patreon, and already had a large following. He brought his existing audience to Patreon. So unless you have an existing audience like everyone on this list, you have almost no chance of having their success on the site. You can do well if you do pledge-for-pledge, like I did.
The Conversion Rate of Your Audience to Patreon Supporters.
If Pentatonix has 6.5 million subscribers, and 2,076 Patrons are on this page, that works out to them getting one Patreon supporter for every 3,131 youtube subscribers. I have only 3,000 viewers. I should not expect to get more Patreon subscribers. This means the conversion of subscribers to people who will actually pledge is only .03%. That is dangerously close to zero. No one would be happy with a .03% conversion ratio.
I have a modest following of 3,100 subscribers, and all of my videos have 1.5 million views. One of them became my Patreon, and I am so thankful for them. The point is, it is very hard to get to these top honors on patrion. If you want to make a full-time living on Patreon, it is going to be extremely difficult! The only way you are going to be able to do it is by having an established audience. Many of the users can not be supported by their following alone. All Patreon users need to be creative about where they source their funding.
My Experience Asking Friends and Family for Support.
I shared my page with hundreds of my friends. Can you guess how many supported me? Zero! My wife and my mom ended up supporting me. They did it because they love me, but it still took weeks to convince them! If your experience is anything like mine, you will find that it will be hard to source support from your existing network of friends and family. There are a few mistakes I made when I started that you can avoid.
The major feedback from my friends pertained to my account description. The first version of my page were very selfish. It basically begged, “give to me, I need support, this is what I do! Gimme, gimme, gimme!” This is certainly why I didn’t get any of my friends to support my account.
My brother offered the best feedback. He said you know you have a pool, I don’t have a pool. Why should I pledge to you? Stuff like that matters when you ask your friends to pledge to you, and you have things they want. Even if they have more things than you, they will pick things that you have, and they want. They will often make seemingly unreasonable reasons for not giving you money.
Do not make your Patreon account look like a charity case. As I said in another article, people want to give money to those who seem established, or already are wealthy. If you make yourself an influential person in your field, people will be happy to become your patron. In other words, do not make yourself look needy!
My brother also said that he felt uncomfortable paying monthly for my Patreon. I asked if he would be my patron for my birthday. We usually spend $50 on each other for our birthdays, so I thought it would be a good way to get more supporter on my page. He was disgusted by the idea of it, because he hates monthly payments. He was happy to give $50 if it was a one time payment, but refused to be locked into any sort of commitment.
Other people feel very much the same way about this– especially family and friends. They do not want to look at you and your work like another monthly payment they are locked-in on every month. However, there is a way to get around this. If someone only wants to make a one-time payment, they can pay for one month, then cancel their Patreon support for future months. I have heard of people using prepaid debit cards to do this as well.
If My Friends Will Not Support Me, Who Will?
It has taken a while to get my Patreon account to where it is now!
You can see getting started on Patreon is really hard, even if you already have an existing following! You will have to market your Patreon page to your followers, ask everyone to support you, and bring traffic to your Patreon page to get people interested in what you do! Even with an audience that reaches millions of people around the world, I have only been able to get these 58 supporters by networking with other Patreon users. Only one of these supporters came from my Youtube audience!
I know one of my YouTube followers currently support me. Thank you!
Most of the people, who support my page, do it because I offer pledge-for-pledge. That is just about the only way I have figured out to get off the ground on Patreon. For many of the people I am pledging, I am their only pledge, or the first person to pledge to them. Going from zero pledges, to even one, two, or three, is a very difficult task. The first pledge is by far the hardest to get.
This is just a sample of the people I have pledge-for-pledge agreements with.
You see, I’m offering them a dollar, and they are offering a dollar back. Also, even though pledge-for-pledge has brought me a fair amount of supporters, I am still hardly breaking even for each video I make. This is because I pay out to my supporters for their work. That’s the only way I got anyone to pledge to my page (other than my mom and wife, who did it because they love me)! I have a Youtube community with a pretty big following. The only difference now from a few months ago, is that it is now easier for me to get Patreon Supporters. If I keep at it, people will eventually come to my page and support me without wanting support in return.
I state a sampling of the rewards I offer my patrons in my profile description.
Another way to get support, is by leveraging the use of rewards for your patrons. These sweeten the deal, and show your audience what they will receive from you for contributing at specific levels each month. Be careful! You do not want to offer a reward that you will not be able to follow through with. Some creators offer artwork for their supporters. I can only imagine how stressful that would get as you get more, and more support. Many people offer shout-outs in their videos. I know my audience, and offer them link sharing, private consultations, and feature them in my videos. This helps my supporters access to my audience.
The Moment You Have Been Waiting For:
How Patreon Works in My Current Business Model!
I have spent years learning, and developing my skills. I share everything I have learned on my website.
I have a website where I write about things such as: Patreon, other ways to make money online, and Facebook Ads. I have an absurd amount of posts and information on my site, all within the past few months. I am writing constantly for my site.
Here’s how I do it: I start by making a video that goes on my youtube channel. I have over 300 videos on my YouTube channel. I am lucky enough to have thousands of subscribers. Patreon works great for me, because I get paid by video. Each time I create a video I get paid for it. Then it goes on my channel, and I get more people to watch it. After watching my video, people will often visit my website.
Udemy is a great site to post tutorials to make money online! Udemy users pay for each course they watch.
I offer online courses based on the information strewn in these videos. If you want to learn more about making money online, be sure to check out my site! I have a great course teaching people how to make $10,000 a month on the internet, based on my own experience. I also have one of the top Facebook courses on the internet posted on Udemy. On top of those tools, I have a Skillfeed account. On skill Feed you pay a monthly fee to watch all the videos you want. This is different than the set up of Udemy, where you have to pay per course.
Skillfeed is differs from Udemy, because users pay a monthly fee to learn as much as they desire.
By putting my videos on youtube, in my Udemy course, and on Skillfeed I get paid again for my videos! So I get paid to make a video for Patreon, then I can let people watch them for free on Youtube, or I can put it up on another paid medium. You can make more money for one video by monetizing that video on a paid course site, or two.
So Patreon is awesome for my business system. If you don’t have a business system like mine, it will not make sense for you to put in the time and effort on Patreon. The main thing that is limited in life is time. When it comes to time we often think we have all the time in the world–especially when we are young. I know now that as long as I have enough money to eat in survive, that’s all the money I need. Any money more than that is just a want. There will always be more money. Time, however, is very limited. There are all kinds of things I want to create, and have a very small amount of time to complete these projects. That being said, if you don’t have the time for Patreon, you should stay away altogether. It may be more important for you to concentrate your time on other tasks, and websites.
Will You Open a Patreon Account?
I hope hearing my experience with the site helps you succeed on Patreon. I hope all of the information in this post is useful for you whether you choose to use Patreon or not. I also hope you enjoyed this enough to visit my Patreon page, and become my patron! Support my creations, and my love for helping others succeed to make their own living on the web! If you support me, you can send me a message requesting that I support you back!
I work tirelessly to spread my love, hope and faith with the world. I offer really helpful tactics, and in-depth information to my readers and viewers for free. My channel has hours of advertising and marketing tips! Please comment below with any questions and comments, or your experiences making the best out of Patreon!
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Update: Please be advised that we don’t do pledge for pledge anymore.